<div dir="ltr">Hello :) <br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:26 PM Chris Morgan <<a href="mailto:mihalis68@gmail.com">mihalis68@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think the issue is that forum submissions building on what gets discussed in Berlin can't be expected to be finalised whilst attendees to the berlin meetup are still traveling. It's not that Erik can't pull these things together, in fact he's an old hand at this, it's more that this process isn't reasonable if there's so little time to collate what we learn in Berlin and feed it forward to Denver. Frankly it sounds like because the planning committee needs 5 weeks, Erik can have two days. Seem unfair.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Honestly, the decision process doesn't take much time, aside from organizing a time that all 10 people can meet across x timezones (a thing unto itself). Its the community feedback period, giving people enough time to secure travel approval from their management, loading the sessions into the actual schedule app, and other print deadlines that force us to have everything set this far out.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I will definitely help the ops community in whatever way I can! Do you have remote attendance set up for the meetup? <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Chris</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:29 PM Kendall Nelson <<a href="mailto:kennelson11@gmail.com" target="_blank">kennelson11@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Another- nother thought: You could take a look at what is submitted by project teams closer to the deadline and see if your ideas might fit well with theirs since they are looking for feedback from operators anyway. In the past I have always hoped for more engagement in the forum sessions I've submitted but only ever had one or two operators able to join us. <div><br></div><div>-Kendall (diablo_rojo)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:14 AM Kendall Nelson <<a href="mailto:kennelson11@gmail.com" target="_blank">kennelson11@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello :) <br><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:08 AM Jimmy McArthur <<a href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org" target="_blank">jimmy@openstack.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Erik,<br>
<br>
I definitely understand the timeline is tight. One of the reasons that
we publish the schedule so early is to enable community members to plan
their schedule early, especially as
there is more overlap with the main Summit Schedule in Denver.
Additionally, travel approval is often predicated upon someone showing
they're leading/moderating a session. <br>
<br>
Before publishing the schedule, we print a draft Forum schedule for
community feedback and start promotion of the schedule, which we have to
put up on the OpenStack website and apps at 5 weeks out. Extending the
date beyond the 10th won't give the Forum Selection Committee enough
time to complete those tasks. <br>
<br>
I think if the Ops team can come up with some high level discussion
topics, we'll be happy to put some holds in the Forum schedule for
Ops-specific content. diablo_rojo has also offered to attend some of
the Ops sessions remotely as well, if that would help you all shape some
things into actual sessions. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>I'm definitely happy to help as much as I can. If you'll have something set up that I can call into (zoom, webex, bluejeans, hangout, whatever), I definitely will. I could also read through etherpads you take notes in and help summarize things into forum proposals. </div><div><br></div><div>Another thing to note is that whatever you/we submit, it doesn't have to be award winning :) Its totally possible to change session descriptions and edit who the speaker is later.</div><div><br></div><div>Other random thought, I know Sean McGinnis has attended a lot of the Operators stuff in the past so maybe he could help narrow things down too? Not to sign him up for more work, but I know he's written a forum propsal or two in the past ;) </div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<br>
I wish I could offer a further extension, but extending it another week
would push too far into the process. <br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
<span>
</span>
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<div style="margin:30px 25px 10px" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail-m_-8460720129908508887m_1764930178337592348m_7779679685007412653__pbConvHr"><div style="width:100%;border-top-width:2px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(237,241,244);padding-top:10px"> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%">
<a href="mailto:emccormick@cirrusseven.com" style="padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;color:rgb(72,86,100);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Erik McCormick</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 12:43 PM</span></font></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><blockquote style="border:0px none" type="cite">
<div style="color:rgb(144,154,164);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail-m_-8460720129908508887m_1764930178337592348m_7779679685007412653__pbConvBody"><div>Jimmy,<br><br>I won't even
get home until the 10th much less have time to follow up<br>with
anyone. The formation of those sessions often come from<br>discussions
spawned at the meetup and expanded upon later with folks<br>who could
not attend. Could we at least get until 3/17? I understand<br>your
desire to finalize the schedule, but 6 weeks out should be more<br>than
enough time, no?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Erik<br></div></div>
</blockquote></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><blockquote style="border:0px none" type="cite"><div style="margin:30px 25px 10px" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail-m_-8460720129908508887m_1764930178337592348m_7779679685007412653__pbConvHr"><div style="width:100%;border-top-width:2px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(237,241,244);padding-top:10px"> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%">
<a href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org" style="padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;color:rgb(72,86,100);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Jimmy McArthur</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 12:04 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:rgb(144,154,164);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail-m_-8460720129908508887m_1764930178337592348m_7779679685007412653__pbConvBody"></div></blockquote></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><blockquote style="border:0px none" type="cite"><div style="color:rgb(144,154,164);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail-m_-8460720129908508887m_1764930178337592348m_7779679685007412653__pbConvBody">
Hi Erik,<br>
<br>
We are able to extend the deadline to 11:59PM Pacific, March 10th. That
should give the weekend to get any additional stragglers in and still
allow the Forum Programming Committee enough time to manage the rest of
the approval and publishing process in time for people's travel needs,
etc...<br>
<br>
For the Ops Meetup specifically, I'd suggest going a bit broader with
the proposals and offering to fill in the blanks later. For example, if
something comes up and everyone agrees it should go to the Forum, just
submit before the end of the Ops session. Kendall or myself would be
happy to help you add details a bit later in the process, should
clarification be necessary. We typically have enough spots for the
majority of proposed Forum sessions. That's not a guarantee, but food
for thought.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
<span>
</span><br>
<br>
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<a href="mailto:emccormick@cirrusseven.com" style="padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;color:rgb(72,86,100);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Erik McCormick</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 11:31 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:rgb(144,154,164);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail-m_-8460720129908508887m_1764930178337592348m_7779679685007412653__pbConvBody"><div dir="auto"><div>Would it
be possible to push the deadline back a couple weeks? I expect there to
be a few session proposals that will come out of the Ops Meetup which
ends the day before the deadline. It would be helpful to have a little
time to organize and submit things afterwards.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto">Erik</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
</div>
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<a href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org" style="padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;color:rgb(72,86,100);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Jimmy McArthur</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 10:40 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:rgb(144,154,164);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail-m_-8460720129908508887m_1764930178337592348m_7779679685007412653__pbConvBody">
Hi Everyone -<br>
<br>
A quick reminder that we are accepting Forum [1] submissions for the
2019 Open
Infrastructure Summit in Denver [2]. Please submit your ideas through
the Summit CFP tool [3] through March 8th. Don't forget to put your
brainstorming etherpad up on the Denver Forum page [4].
<div><br></div>
<div>This
is not a classic conference track with speakers and presentations. OSF
community members (participants in development teams, operators, working
groups, SIGs, and other interested individuals) discuss the topics they
want to cover and get alignment on and we welcome your participation.
The Forum is your opportunity to help shape the development of future
project releases. More information about the Forum [1].<br>
<div><br></div>
<div>If you have questions or concerns, please reach out to <a href="mailto:speakersupport@openstack.org" target="_blank">speakersupport@openstack.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>[1] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum</a></div>
<div>[2] <a href="https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/" target="_blank">https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/</a></div>
<div>[3] <a href="https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations" target="_blank">https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations</a></div>
<div>[4] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver2019" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver2019</a></div>
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</span><br>
<br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Hopefully that helps!</div><div><br></div><div>-Kendall (diablo_rojo) </div></div></div>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="m_1076563071900965358gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail_signature">Chris Morgan <<a href="mailto:mihalis68@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihalis68@gmail.com</a>></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>- Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) </div></div></div>