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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Stephen,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Don’t worry, the discussion is still very active. But yes, we still are planning to incorporate ironic using metal kubed. A driver for that to reduce the amount of custom code that Airship needs to drive provisioning – in the target state,
the plan is metal kubed + cluster API will care for,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Ironic-based machine provisioning<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Kubeadm-based cluster management<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Declarative interfaces for the above<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Like you said, this does present a chicken and egg problem around using a k8s cluster to provision a k8s cluster. We’re designing for that now – in some use cases an ephemeral cluster can be spun up, and in some there would be a centralized
management cluster (we call this “cloud harbor”) already. We have notes, draft design docs, and design meeting recordings if you’re interested,
<i><u><span style="color:blue"><a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Airship_OpenDesignDiscussions">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Airship_OpenDesignDiscussions</a></span></u></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">and you’re most welcome to join the design discussion as well (times listed on our wiki
<a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stephen Nemeth <kbaegis@gmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 19, 2019 5:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> airship-discuss@lists.airshipit.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Airship-discuss] Divestiture<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi there everyone, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is airship still interested in incorporating openstack ironic for deployments? While metal kubed and cluster-api are cool, this simply increases the dependencies to run airship to begin with doesn’t it? It functionally assumes that you
already have kubernetes available just to deploy a new kubernetes environment. Am I missing something critical here? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry in advance for being late to the discussion. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<br>
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Stephen<o:p></o:p></p>
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