Hi Charles, Glad to hear you’re interested! Forwarding this to the Airship ML since there may be folks on this mailing list that will have pointers who didn't see the openstack-discuss post. Ashlee
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From: Charles <cems@ebi.ac.uk <mailto:cems@ebi.ac.uk>> Subject: OOK,Airship Date: October 2, 2019 at 5:39:16 PM GMT+2 To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org <mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org>
Hi,
We are interested in OOK and Openstack Helm.
Has anyone any experience with Airship (now that 1.0 is out)?
Noticed that a few Enterprise distributions are looking at managing the Openstack control plane with Kubernetes and have been testing Airship with a view to rolling it out (Mirantis,SUSE)
Is this a signal that there is momentum around Openstack Helm?
Is it possible to roll out an open source production grade Airship/Openstack Helm deployment today, or is it too early?
Thoughts?
Charles
Thanks Ashlee! Charles, A few companies who work on development of Airship do use it, including production uses: AT&T, SUSE, Mirantis, Ericsson, SK Telekom and others. Many of those companies (if not all) use Airship + OpenStack Helm as well. Airship, as you have mentioned, is a collection of components for undercloud control plane, which helps to deploy nodes with OS+Docker+Kubernetes on it, configure/manage it all in GitOps way, and then help to maintain the configuration. It also allows to manage deploys and maintenance of whatever runs on top of Kubernetes cluster, would that be OpenStack Helm or other software packaged in Helm format. OpenStack Helm does not really require to be running on Airship-managed cluster. It could run standalone. Yes, you can roll out an open source production grade Airship/Openstack Helm deployment today. Good example of production grade configuration could be found in airship/treasuremap repository [0] as 'seaworthy' site definition. You are welcome to try, of course. For the questions - reach out to us on IRC #airshipit@Freenode of via Airship-discuss mailing list. [0] https://opendev.org/airship/treasuremap Best regards, -- Roman Gorshunov On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:27 PM Ashlee Ferguson <ashlee@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi Charles,
Glad to hear you’re interested! Forwarding this to the Airship ML since there may be folks on this mailing list that will have pointers who didn't see the openstack-discuss post.
Ashlee
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From: Charles <cems@ebi.ac.uk> Subject: OOK,Airship Date: October 2, 2019 at 5:39:16 PM GMT+2 To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org
Hi,
We are interested in OOK and Openstack Helm.
Has anyone any experience with Airship (now that 1.0 is out)?
Noticed that a few Enterprise distributions are looking at managing the Openstack control plane with Kubernetes and have been testing Airship with a view to rolling it out (Mirantis,SUSE)
Is this a signal that there is momentum around Openstack Helm?
Is it possible to roll out an open source production grade Airship/Openstack Helm deployment today, or is it too early?
Thoughts?
Charles
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Hi Roman, Many thanks for the reply. I posted this on openstack-discuss because I was wondering if any users/Openstack operators out there (outside large corporations who are members of the Airship development framework) are actually running OOK in production. This could be Airship, or some other Kubernetes distribution running Openstack Helm. Our several years experience of managing Openstack so far (RHOSP/TripleO) has been bumpy due to issues with configuration maintenance /upgrades. The idea of using CI/CD and Kubernetes/Helm to manage Openstack is compelling and fits nicely into the DevOps framework here. If we were to explore this route we could 'roll our own' with a deployment say based on https://opendev.org/airship/treasuremap , or pay for and Enterprise solution that incorporates the OOK model (upcoming Mirantis and SUSE potentially). Regards Charles On 03/10/2019 12:04, Roman Gorshunov wrote:
Thanks Ashlee!
Charles, A few companies who work on development of Airship do use it, including production uses: AT&T, SUSE, Mirantis, Ericsson, SK Telekom and others. Many of those companies (if not all) use Airship + OpenStack Helm as well.
Airship, as you have mentioned, is a collection of components for undercloud control plane, which helps to deploy nodes with OS+Docker+Kubernetes on it, configure/manage it all in GitOps way, and then help to maintain the configuration. It also allows to manage deploys and maintenance of whatever runs on top of Kubernetes cluster, would that be OpenStack Helm or other software packaged in Helm format.
OpenStack Helm does not really require to be running on Airship-managed cluster. It could run standalone.
Yes, you can roll out an open source production grade Airship/Openstack Helm deployment today. Good example of production grade configuration could be found in airship/treasuremap repository [0] as 'seaworthy' site definition. You are welcome to try, of course. For the questions - reach out to us on IRC #airshipit@Freenode of via Airship-discuss mailing list.
[0] https://opendev.org/airship/treasuremap
Best regards, -- Roman Gorshunov
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:27 PM Ashlee Ferguson <ashlee@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi Charles,
Glad to hear you’re interested! Forwarding this to the Airship ML since there may be folks on this mailing list that will have pointers who didn't see the openstack-discuss post.
Ashlee
Begin forwarded message:
From: Charles <cems@ebi.ac.uk> Subject: OOK,Airship Date: October 2, 2019 at 5:39:16 PM GMT+2 To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org
Hi,
We are interested in OOK and Openstack Helm.
Has anyone any experience with Airship (now that 1.0 is out)?
Noticed that a few Enterprise distributions are looking at managing the Openstack control plane with Kubernetes and have been testing Airship with a view to rolling it out (Mirantis,SUSE)
Is this a signal that there is momentum around Openstack Helm?
Is it possible to roll out an open source production grade Airship/Openstack Helm deployment today, or is it too early?
Thoughts?
Charles
_______________________________________________ Airship-discuss mailing list Airship-discuss@lists.airshipit.org http://lists.airshipit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/airship-discuss
-- Charles Short Senior Cloud Engineer EMBL-EBI Hinxton 01223494205
Hi Charles, As briefly mentioned in the previous email, SKT is running OOK in several productions: SKT's LTE/5G NSA infrastructure for a certain VNF (Virtualized Network Function), Private Cloud, Cloud infrastructure for VDI. SKT started navigating OOK in late 2016 exactly because of "bumpy experience due to issues with configuration maintenance /upgrade". We got very lucky to work with AT&T from the beginning both on openstack-helm and airship-armada. SKT now has a slightly different technology set from Airship, we have ansible+ironic+kubeadm+airship-armada+openstack-helm. You can see all the code and information from the following link. We opened our codebase in July (we call it "taco: skt all container openstack). - https://github.com/openinfradev - https://github.com/openinfradev/tacoplay In addtion, we have a concrete plan to develop "2nd generation of ook" that will be very similar to what Airship 2.0 look like. We will work with Airship community on this route. I hope it help your research on ook option. You can always ask me any question on this topic. I will be happy to help you. FYI, here is a presentation about what we did. - https://www.openstack.org/videos/summits/berlin-2018/you-can-start-small-and... Thanks! Thanks. 2019년 10월 3일 (목) 오후 9:14, Charles <cems@ebi.ac.uk>님이 작성:
Hi Roman,
Many thanks for the reply.
I posted this on openstack-discuss because I was wondering if any users/Openstack operators out there (outside large corporations who are members of the Airship development framework) are actually running OOK in production. This could be Airship, or some other Kubernetes distribution running Openstack Helm.
Our several years experience of managing Openstack so far (RHOSP/TripleO) has been bumpy due to issues with configuration maintenance /upgrades. The idea of using CI/CD and Kubernetes/Helm to manage Openstack is compelling and fits nicely into the DevOps framework here. If we were to explore this route we could 'roll our own' with a deployment say based on https://opendev.org/airship/treasuremap , or pay for and Enterprise solution that incorporates the OOK model (upcoming Mirantis and SUSE potentially).
Regards
Charles
Thanks Ashlee!
Charles, A few companies who work on development of Airship do use it, including production uses: AT&T, SUSE, Mirantis, Ericsson, SK Telekom and others. Many of those companies (if not all) use Airship + OpenStack Helm as well.
Airship, as you have mentioned, is a collection of components for undercloud control plane, which helps to deploy nodes with OS+Docker+Kubernetes on it, configure/manage it all in GitOps way, and then help to maintain the configuration. It also allows to manage deploys and maintenance of whatever runs on top of Kubernetes cluster, would that be OpenStack Helm or other software packaged in Helm format.
OpenStack Helm does not really require to be running on Airship-managed cluster. It could run standalone.
Yes, you can roll out an open source production grade Airship/Openstack Helm deployment today. Good example of production grade configuration could be found in airship/treasuremap repository [0] as 'seaworthy' site definition. You are welcome to try, of course. For the questions - reach out to us on IRC #airshipit@Freenode of via Airship-discuss mailing list.
[0] https://opendev.org/airship/treasuremap
Best regards, -- Roman Gorshunov
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:27 PM Ashlee Ferguson <ashlee@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi Charles,
Glad to hear you’re interested! Forwarding this to the Airship ML since
On 03/10/2019 12:04, Roman Gorshunov wrote: there may be folks on this mailing list that will have pointers who didn't see the openstack-discuss post.
Ashlee
Begin forwarded message:
From: Charles <cems@ebi.ac.uk> Subject: OOK,Airship Date: October 2, 2019 at 5:39:16 PM GMT+2 To: openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org
Hi,
We are interested in OOK and Openstack Helm.
Has anyone any experience with Airship (now that 1.0 is out)?
Noticed that a few Enterprise distributions are looking at managing the
Openstack control plane with Kubernetes and have been testing Airship with a view to rolling it out (Mirantis,SUSE)
Is this a signal that there is momentum around Openstack Helm?
Is it possible to roll out an open source production grade
Airship/Openstack Helm deployment today, or is it too early?
Thoughts?
Charles
_______________________________________________ Airship-discuss mailing list Airship-discuss@lists.airshipit.org http://lists.airshipit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/airship-discuss
-- Charles Short Senior Cloud Engineer EMBL-EBI Hinxton 01223494205
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